Thanks for sharing. I left not long ago and I am trying to relearn the Bible. I do not read the NWT - that is for sure. Thanks again.
Finally Left
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More scullduggery in the New World Translation?
by NikL ini was reading in jude last night in the esv bible.. i came across this little gem as i was falling asleep and woke right up.. jude 1:5.
5 now i want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that jesus, who saved a people out of the land of egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
jesus who saved a people out of egypt?
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Watchtower Lost Lopez Summary Judgement
by John Davis insuperior court of california,.
minute order.
time: 10:00:00 am.
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Finally Left
Thanks for sharing. I have been wondering what is going on in this case.
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How Many Here Used To Sneak Looking At "apostate" Material?
by minimus ini did!
even when i was in junior high school i would go to the library and look for anything that was about charles taze russell or millenial dawn or jehovah's witnesses..... maybe i was an "apostate " in the making..
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When I started researching, actually hoping to prove the JW's correct, after all I have spent most of my life doing this, I would not go to apostate websites. One day I found the eye opening answer to my question that was not on an apostate website. I realized I had been lied to and then I knew I needed to see what the other side was saying. I would get in my bed at night with my ipad in the dark and read apostate websites! It would be terrible if someone saw me!
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Finally ready to join the crowd.
by Silent Knight inhello, all you damn dirty apostates!
please, allow me to join this community of diseased minds.
i have been lurking here for over 2 years and tonight i decided it's time to come out of the shadows.
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Hi Silent Knight - welcome! It was interesting to read your post. For years we knew something was very wrong, but we kept going as we did not know what was going on. We needed the facts and our eyes opened to get out. I appreciate the forum too! Welcome!
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Begining of freedom???
by JW-AWAKED J17 inhello every body!.
it's my thirst time here.
i'm verry glad to tell you my resignation as an elder in my local congregation.
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Welcome JW-Awaked! We just woke up too. I was so happy to see all the suggestion on how to handle your situation with the other elders. It is so good to help each other and get advice from ones that have been there. It is such a shock to your system for a while it is good that we have help from others.
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Broadcasting live from the belly of the beast
by NikL inwell unfortunately i was unable to get out of today gracefully so here i am in sacramento california at what i fear may be the most boring convention to date.. heck there aren't even any entertaining apostates to watch .
anyway,i am just posting as a quiet f.u.
to the org..
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Thanks for the update
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Day 1: The Night of Anger, Tears, and Pain
by Saethydd inmy freedom came with a heavy cost.
i couldn't stand the dishonesty so when my sister went out of town on a trip i told my parents that i no longer wanted to be a jw.
when my sister got back and i told her she was so angry, said she really wanted to slap me, then she ran off sobbing, a few minutes later she deposited every gift i ever gave her in front of my door.. my entire family has turned against me.
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Speaking from the parents point of view, I remember when my son left. I cried and cried. You feel like a failure and you are so worried. You ask yourself what is Satan's world going to do to him? He will not be in the new system with us. Honestly it is very difficult for parents.
With time I saw my son was doing just fine. He had made friends, had a good job. After a while you get used to the idea even though you aren't happy about it. Give them time. Our relationship improved with our son and now we are out of the organization too. A year ago you would never convince me I would be out and posting on an apostate website!! Time changes everything.
Make good decisions, let your family know you love them and miss them. Let them know you are doing well. Hopefully it will get better.
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Broadcasting live from the belly of the beast
by NikL inwell unfortunately i was unable to get out of today gracefully so here i am in sacramento california at what i fear may be the most boring convention to date.. heck there aren't even any entertaining apostates to watch .
anyway,i am just posting as a quiet f.u.
to the org..
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Finally Left
I feel for you. When I was "in" they were hard to sit through. Can't imagine what it must be like knowing it is not true. Please post how many are baptized. Just curious.
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Crossing the Elders
by Cold Steel infew things draw my interest as much as people on this board who talk about the elders, the insidious little toadies who lurk around kingdom halls, the proverbial big fish in little ponds.
it amazes me the terror and the veneration they inspire, as well as the occasional ridicule.
it makes me wonder how they're selected and whether most of them come into the position with a sense of power, entitlement, authority and control, or whether many of them are pretty nice people and that i'm just hearing about the bad apples?
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It is funny how you go through such a range of emotions when you leave the truth. This post struck a cord with me and today I am angry.
Elders - shame on them. Last year a brother in our congregation was in hospice with cancer. He had been there for several weeks. His wife said when he is dying I will call you, please be with me. Well, in the middle of the afternoon the call came. I was at work at good 15 minutes away, but my husband was at a store within blocks of hospice. I called him and asked him to go immediately that this was it - he is dying. There was an elder that was in the same store at that time and please note - they are within WALKING distance of the hospice. He asked the elder to come, that the brother was about to take his last breath and we need to be there for him and his family. The brother said - I don't have time right now I need to buy some light bulbs. The brother was dead 30 minutes later. Shame on him! Shame! Shame! I could never look him in the face again. I am supposed to respect him? Really?
Several years ago a sister tried to commit suicide. My husband went with an elder to visit her in the hospital. His first words to her were, "You had your chance and you blew it. You are still here!". Can you believe it! My husband was so upset with him he took him the hall of the hospital and let him have it.
Elders have zero accountability. They do so much harm when they could do good. They are uncaring, borish, untrained yet think they are something special. I know this is not true for every elder, but so many elders bully the other elders and they just back down and let them damage the flock. What a shame!
I used to think Jehovah, where are you? What is going on here? Now I know.
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Crossing the Elders
by Cold Steel infew things draw my interest as much as people on this board who talk about the elders, the insidious little toadies who lurk around kingdom halls, the proverbial big fish in little ponds.
it amazes me the terror and the veneration they inspire, as well as the occasional ridicule.
it makes me wonder how they're selected and whether most of them come into the position with a sense of power, entitlement, authority and control, or whether many of them are pretty nice people and that i'm just hearing about the bad apples?
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I was reading about people who are trained to handle child abuse cases their training lasts 18 months. How much training do elders receive yet they handle matters that affect people for the rest of their life? It is sad. They are not qualified to deal with marriage, teenage, child abuse............all the issues that they deal with. They harm too many people